If you are sometimes troubled about the apparent actions of God, or if you are interested in the songs of Bob Dylan, this post may strike a chord.
Infidels and the born again Bob
After decades as a counter culture icon, Bob Dylan shocked everyone in 1979 when he released an album with overt christian lyrics. For three albums and three years, Dylan concerts were like evangelistic rallies, and his albums full of songs of faith, and a little self doubt. Everyone had an opinion, mostly not complimentary.
Then in 1983, the album Infidels was released, to confound everyone. It contains three of the best songs Dylan has ever recorded, and some dark and enigmatic religion.
The lyrics of Jokerman, like many Dylan songs, contain many religious references, and the accompanying video kept the theme going. But what was Dylan saying?
The christians who had enthusiastically embraced his lyrics (even if they didn’t always buy the albums) felt sure the Jokerman was the devil or the Antichrist. Dylan had been travelling in the Caribbean, had been influenced by Rasta, and had even said in interview that the song was about Caribbean spirits or demons. There were references in the lyrics to support all this:
“the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing”
“You were born with a snake in both of your fists”
“But with the truth so far off”
“Manipulator of crowds, you’re a dream twister”
“The law of the jungle and the sea are your only teachers”
But others pointed to words that seemed to be describing God, or occasionally, Jesus:
“You’re a man of the mountains, you can walk on the clouds”
“You’re going to Sodom and Gomorrah, But what do you care?”
“Friend to the martyr, a friend to the woman of shame, You look into the fiery furnace, see the rich man without any name”
“In the smoke of the twilight on a milk-white steed, Michelangelo indeed could’ve carved out your features”
But if the Jokerman is God, it isn’t always a flattering portrait. The Jokerman God isn’t quite the God of “gentle Jesus, meek and mild”!
Finally there were those who pointed out that most Dylan songs had him in there somewhere, and this was no different. Perhaps Dylan saw himself as the Jokerman?
And in all that, Dylan creates images that I still find arresting:
“False-hearted judges dying in the webs that they spin. Only a matter of time ’til night comes steppin’ in”
“It’s a shadowy world, skies are slippery grey”
Disappointment with God?
Many thoughtful christians have been disappointed with God at times. Medieval mystics wrote about “the dark night of the soul”. Modern day christians experience doubt, and sometimes wonder why God allows so much evil and suffering to go unchecked. Atheists often go further and say that the idea of God, especially as expressed in world religions, is abhorrent.
The classic modern statement of being pissed off at the idea of God surely goes to Richard Dawkins:
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.
It seems that Dylan can’t live at either of the extremes of joyful faith or extreme Dawkins-like contempt. Jokerman seems to me to show ambivalence, a little of both extremes, with neither winning over the other.
Yes, God is glorious, above all the turmoil of this world (
the rifleman’s stalking the sick and the lame …. Nightsticks and water cannons, tear gas, padlocks, Molotov cocktails and rocks behind every curtain), but that sometimes makes him look either evil or not caring (
Oh, Jokerman, you don’t show any response). God’s lack of response seems to be the key, emphasised by this phrase coming at the end of the song.
This reaction should be no surprise to Christians, or Jews – the Psalms are full of similar impatient disappointment and anguished pleading for God to intervene and stop the evil. God is love, but sometimes that is a very tough love.
I and I
This song doesn’t seem at first to be the lyrical tour de force that Jokerman is, but it is a beautiful song with some telling images. It is a sort of apocalyptic dream sequence where Dylan wanders restlessly at night and ruminates on life and the future.
The title apparently is a Rastafarian phrase referring to the unity of God and humans, and the chorus seems to play with this idea, or the idea of a duality in God, but a fierce God of judgment:
“I and I
In creation where one’s nature neither honors nor forgives
I and I
One says to the other, no man sees my face and lives”
It is a brave (or foolish) person who claims to know the precise meaning of a Dylan song, but I and I seems to follow Dylan’s embrace of a form of christianity that emphasised judgment more than grace:
“Took an untrodden path once, where the swift don’t win the race
It goes to the worthy, who can divide the word of truth
Took a stranger to teach me, to look into justice’s beautiful face
And see an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”
But this time, it seems Dylan isn’t so much angry at God the Jokerman, as bitterly resigned to God’s lack of care for him:
I’ve made shoes for everyone, even you, while I still go barefoot.
Blind Willie McTell
This song has a very different feel; perhaps this why Dylan ended up leaving it off the final album. It begins with the thought that
this land is condemned, and then Dylan explains why, by describing brief scenes of the horrors of slavery in Dixie.
This time he isn’t railing against God and his judgment, but agreeing with it. He ends up gazing pensively out the window of his hotel, musing that
power and greed, and corruptible seed, seems to be all that there is
Is God a Jokerman?
It is easy to agree with Dylan. The ways of God are not always easy to understand, even for a believer.
But this believer finds Dawkins’ reaction quite impossible, for several reasons.
Is Dawkins’ version of God truly evil?
Dawkins, and many other atheists, don’t believe in objective morality. That is, there is no scientific justification for thinking anything is objectively right or wrong, in the way, say, that gravity is true. Dawkins himself has said that
The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference
Many atheists agree. Our beliefs about right and wrong are subjective, a matter of personal or social opinion. We can disagree with each other, but we can have no objective basis to argue that another “should” change.
If that is the case, then how can Dawkins and others “know” that the world is evil and that if God existed, he would be evil too. The word “evil” expresses something about how they feel, but nothing objective.
God revealed in Jesus
As a christian, I believe God’s character is most fully revealed to us in the person of Jesus. And the life and teachings of Jesus tell me two important things about God:
- However much it might look like God doesn’t care, he really does – enough to enter human history as a servant and to die at the hands of powerful men to redeem people.
- The God portrayed the Old Testament, especially the earlier sections, is an incomplete picture. More than half a century ago, CS Lewis pointed out that the earlier beliefs of the Hebrews had to be
purged and enlightened …. At first hardly anything comes through but mere power. Then (v. important) the truth that He is One and there is no other God. Then justice, then mercy, love, wisdom.The God Dawkins and most atheists revile is a primitive view of God, not yet refined by revelation, especially the coming of Jesus.
Other reasons to believe
The evil in the world may give us reason to doubt God, but so much else in the world gives me reason to believe in God and trust him (see Why believe?). So I can understand Dylan’s ambivalence, but I think it is more logical to say we don’t understand God than to say he is a Jokerman.
God is a great big alien being?
Christians sometimes give the impression of having God in a box. They understand God, they know exactly what he is doing, and why. Too often he turns out to be just like them.
Jokerman and I and I remind us that God is very different to us, not at all tame. He appears to have been willing to create a world that is often beautiful, but can be scary at times. Let’s not kid ourselves, he may indeed by loving, but he’s one tough dude. As Bob found out, he doesn’t always do what we want.
Check out the songs
- The video of Jokerman and Jokerman lyrics
- Live version of I and I (not all that good, but the best I can find) and the lyrics.
- Blind Willie McTell (sound only).
Graphic: Taken from the YouTube Video of Jokerman.
JOKERMAN? WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS GOD
right out of your bible
SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE OF GOD’S HIS-STORY
POWER OF GOD
God is all-powerful, eternal, all knowing, and perfect in every way.
God is three persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy Ghost
God created the physical universe and humans with eternal souls
The physical unverse shall end – the humans will exist forever
God planned His-Story including your life story
He knows where you will end up = even before you were alive
GOD’S SACRED STORY
His-Story started with the rebellious Adam and Eve
Adam and Eve actions condemned all humans to pain, death, and hell
God is merciful and forgiving: He is a father who cares for His chosen children.
Jesus (God) died on the cross to save his chosen humans from hell
Jesus atoned for all actions and beliefs that God declared to be sins
Humans who believe in Jesus, the savior, will have eternal joy alive in Heaven
But – He said – only few selected humans would be saved
Humans who do not believe in Jesus are condemned –
They will have eternal life in hell in complete pain —
He said there would be many ( most ) humans will suffer in Hell forever.
Revelations 21:8 === Matthew 12:50 ===Matthew 25:41 & 25:46
RESULTS IN ETERNITY
Gods chosen humans joins God in heaven,
MOST OF THE HUMANS THAT GOD CREATED SHALL
SUFFER IN HELL,
The all-powerful God created HIS-STORY = You humans have no choice
GOD MADE HUMANS SO HE COULD ENJOY THE RESULTS OF “HIS-STORY”
A being (god) douses a dog with gasoline
lights the dog on fire
as the dog experiences terminal pain (forever)
the being (god) is pleased and giggles
send to everyone
Wow Norm, that is pretty heavy stuff! Do you actually believe all of that? I certainly don’t. I think you should hang around to read my next post (in maybe a week).
Norm thats really Heavy…people won’t come to God when you say that!
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